{"id":2156,"date":"2016-03-15T14:17:37","date_gmt":"2016-03-15T20:17:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.grammarbook.com\/blog\/?p=2156"},"modified":"2020-11-25T11:17:27","modified_gmt":"2020-11-25T17:17:27","slug":"pronoun-puzzlers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.grammarbook.com\/blog\/pronouns\/pronoun-puzzlers\/","title":{"rendered":"Pronoun Puzzlers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today let\u2019s look into a seldom-discussed subject that\u2019s quite a mouthful: compound possessives with nouns and pronouns.<\/p>\n<p>Have a look at this sentence: <em>Cesar\u2019s and Maribel\u2019s houses are both lovely<\/em>. Note the <strong><em>\u2019s<\/em><\/strong> at the end of each name. This tells us that Cesar and Maribel each own their own house.<\/p>\n<p>But when two people share ownership, the <strong><em>\u2019s<\/em><\/strong> goes after the second name only. The sentence <em>Cesar and Maribel\u2019s houses are both lovely<\/em> refers to houses co-owned by Cesar and Maribel.<\/p>\n<p>However, if one\u2014or both\u2014of the joint owners is written as a pronoun, the possessive form is required for both: <em><strong>his<\/strong> and Maribel<strong>\u2019s<\/strong> house, Cesar<strong>\u2019s<\/strong> and <strong>my\u00a0<\/strong>house,<strong> her <\/strong>and <strong>my<\/strong> house, <strong>your<\/strong> and <strong>their<\/strong> house. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>As the above examples demonstrate, compound possessives with pronouns require <strong>possessive adjectives<\/strong> (<em>my<\/em>, <em>your<\/em>, <em>her<\/em>, <em>our<\/em>, <em>their<\/em>). Avoid\u00a0<strong>possessive pronouns<\/strong> (<em>mine<\/em>, <em>yours<\/em>, <em>hers<\/em>, <em>ours<\/em>,\u00a0<em>theirs<\/em>) in such constructions.<\/p>\n<p>It should be mentioned that compound possessives are often clunky as well as confusing. For instance, <em>a picture of her and Cesar\u2019s house <\/em>could refer to a photo of \u201cher\u201d in front of the house that Cesar owns or a photo of the house that she and Cesar co-own. Big difference. Such ambiguous sentences should probably just be rewritten.<\/p>\n<p><strong>* \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0* \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 * \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 * \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0*<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Last week we received this interesting note from a correspondent in Cambridge, Massachusetts:<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cThe M.C. and I\u201d is the title of a New York Times Book Review piece on Joel Grey\u2019s new memoir. When I saw it I thought, Is that grammatically correct? I don\u2019t even know how to think about figuring that out. Most titles aren\u2019t sentences. I doubt <\/em>The King and I <em>would have gotten by all these years if it weren\u2019t correct. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve found that for every title like \u201cThe M.C. and I\u201d and\u00a0<em>The King and I\u00a0<\/em>there are several like <em>You,\u00a0<\/em><em>Me, and<\/em> <em>the Apocalypse<\/em> (TV series), <em>Me Talk Pretty One Day<\/em> (book), <em>Me and the Colonel <\/em>(movie), \u201cMe and Bobby McGee\u201d (popular song), and on and on.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s our theory: the subject pronoun <em>I<\/em> in a title like\u00a0<em>The King and I<\/em> sends a subliminal message that what you are about to experience is high-minded and edifying. <em>The King and I<\/em> is a beloved Broadway musical about a prim Englishwoman who served in the court of the king of Siam in the 1860s. Consider the exotic subject matter and the sophisticated target audience and you can understand why <em>The King and Me <\/em>was not an option.<\/p>\n<p>Now look at those other examples. The titles are meant to disarm us with humor or folksiness. They encourage a bond of easy intimacy between author and audience. There\u2019s something comfortable about <em>Me<\/em> in a title and something more reserved and aloof about <em>I<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pop Quiz<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Choose the best sentences. Our answers are below.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1<\/strong>.<br \/>\nA) Randy returned to <em>he and his wife\u2019s<\/em> farm in Kansas.<br \/>\nB) Randy returned to <em>his and his wife\u2019s<\/em> farm in Kansas.<br \/>\nC) Randy returned to <em>him and his wife\u2019s<\/em> farm in Kansas.<br \/>\nD) Randy returned to <em>himself and his wife\u2019s<\/em> farm in Kansas.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2<\/strong>.<br \/>\nA) Chris and my screenplay is almost finished.<br \/>\nB) Me and Chris\u2019s screenplay is almost finished.<br \/>\nC) Chris\u2019s and my screenplay is almost finished<br \/>\nD) Myself and Chris\u2019s screenplay is almost finished.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3<\/strong>.<br \/>\nA) They and their children\u2019s house was getting a new porch.<br \/>\nB) Their and their children\u2019s house was getting a new porch.<br \/>\nC) Them and their children\u2019s house was getting a new porch.<br \/>\nD) Them and their children were getting a new porch for their house.<br \/>\nE) They and their children were getting a new porch for their house.<\/p>\n<p><strong>4<\/strong>.<br \/>\nA) Your and her dog is on my lawn.<br \/>\nB) Yours and her dog is on my lawn.<br \/>\nC) Hers and your dog is on my lawn.<br \/>\nD) Rewrite the sentence.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pop Quiz Answers<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>1<\/strong>. B<br \/>\n<strong>2<\/strong>. C<br \/>\n<strong>3<\/strong>. E (B is correct, but awkward)<br \/>\n<strong>4<\/strong>. D (A is correct, but awkward)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today let\u2019s look into a seldom-discussed subject that\u2019s quite a mouthful: compound possessives with nouns and pronouns. Have a look at this sentence: Cesar\u2019s and Maribel\u2019s houses are both lovely. Note the \u2019s at the end of each name. This tells us that Cesar and Maribel each own their own house. 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